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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Spudz on Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:56 pm

    latest from the Observer
    WWE has been in contact with a lot of names in recent weeks, whether for Raw, Smackdown or NXT. It’s very clear they want more people with established names for undercards and top fill time and put people over on television. Dave did name Carlito, MVP & Stevie Richards being 3 of the people that been called a few days back.

    The basic reaction is that the WWE money offers aren’t great, and one person noted they’re making considerably more not only than the WWE offer on the outside, but more than they made their last few years of working a full-time schedule in WWE, and are working far less dates to make that money. Some are saying they aren’t going, others saying they won’t unless the offers are higher. Some are offered full-time deals and others deals where they can still work indies that don’t have television similar to the Tommaso Ciampa deal. One person was asked to debut at TV this week, and obviously wasn’t there.
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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by SBR on Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:57 am

    Carlito I get, you can make him a shining star. MVP is ok I guess. But STEVIE RICHARDS?!


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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Spudz on Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:28 am

    SBR wrote:Carlito I get, you can make him a shining star. MVP is ok I guess. But STEVIE RICHARDS?!
    Richards is still in great shape, while he would probably fit better in an player-coach role in NXT, i can see him also working well putting talent over on the C shows.
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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Slayer on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:28 pm

    I saw on a wrestling site recently that Stevie Richards was offered a role as a coach in the Performance Center, as apparently some of the coaches will likely move up to serve as agents due to the brand split needing to maintain 2 full-time rosters.

    Stevie can still go in the ring as well, based on his recent appearances in ROH. He's the perfect fit to use a veteran who can help develop younger talent both in and out of the ring.
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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by SBR on Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:39 pm

    New PPW schedule for the rest of the year:

    7/24 Battleground from Washington, DC
    8/21 SummerSlam from Brooklyn
    9/11 Backlash form Richmond, VA (Smackdown brand show)
    9/25 Clash of Champions from Indianapolis (Raw)
    10/9 No Mercy from Sacramento (Smackdown)
    10/30 Hell in a Cell from Boston (Raw)
    11/20 Survivor Series from Toronto
    12/4 TLC from Dallas (Smackdown)
    12/18 Roadblock from Pittsburgh (Raw)


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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Spudz on Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:28 pm

    from wwe.com

    With this Tuesday's WWE Draft on the premiere of SmackDown Live on USA Network fast approaching, WWE.com answers the biggest questions of the WWE Universe with a breakdown of the official rules, regulations and procedures for one of the biggest nights in WWE history — including a major update that will change the face of NXT as well.

    The rules for the WWE Draft are as follows:

    RAW has the first overall pick
    Since SmackDown Live is a two-hour show and RAW is three hours, for every two picks SmackDown Live receives, RAW will receive three picks
    Tag Teams count as one pick unless a Commissioner/General Manager specifically only wants one member of the team
    Six draft picks will be made off the NXT roster

    The list of current WWE Superstars eligible for the WWE Draft will be as follows:

    Male Superstars

    AJ Styles
    Alberto Del Rio
    Apollo Crews
    Baron Corbin
    Big Show
    Braun Strowman
    Bray Wyatt
    Brock Lesnar
    Cesaro
    Chris Jericho
    Darren Young (w/ Bob Backlund)
    Dean Ambrose – WWE Champion
    Demon Kane
    Dolph Ziggler
    Erick Rowan
    Jack Swagger
    John Cena
    Kalisto
    Kevin Owens
    Mark Henry
    Neville
    Randy Orton
    Roman Reigns
    Rusev (w/ Lana) – United States Champion
    Sami Zayn
    Seth Rollins
    Sheamus
    Sin Cara
    The Miz (w/ Maryse) – Intercontinental Champion
    Titus O’Neil
    Zack Ryder

    Tag Teams

    Breezango (Fandango and Tyler Breeze)
    Enzo and Cass (Enzo Amore and Big Cass)
    Gallows and Anderson (Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson)
    Golden Truth (Goldust and R-Truth)
    Shining Stars (Epico and Primo)
    Social Outcasts (Bo Dallas, Curtis Axel and Heath Slater)
    The Ascension (Konnor and Viktor)
    The Dudley Boyz (Bubba Ray and D-Von Dudley)
    The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods) – Tag Team Champions
    The Usos (Jey and Jimmy Uso)
    The Vaudevillains (Aiden English and Simon Gotch)

    Female Superstars

    Alicia Fox
    Becky Lynch
    Charlotte – WWE Women’s Champion
    Dana Brooke
    Eva Marie
    Naomi
    Natalya
    Paige
    Sasha Banks
    Summer Rae

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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Slayer on Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:29 am

    Based on the way the Draft rosters work, there's no reason for ANY team to be split up, even from a storyline perspective. Odd to see the Lucha Dragons not included in the teams roster, but it's pretty clear they value Kalisto far more as a singles wrestler.
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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by SBR on Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:39 pm

    What does that whole every 2 picks Raw gets 3 picks thing even mean?


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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Spudz on Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:55 pm

    The Rosters after the Draft
    RAW
    Face Side                    
    #5 Finn Balor      
    #6 Roman Reigns    
    #11 Sami Zayn    
    #23 Big Show      
    #26 Neville      
    #28 Cesaro      
    #33 Titus O'Neil      
    #36 Darren Young    
    #38 Sin Cara       #58  Curtis Axel
    #40 Jack Swagger
    #46 Mark Henry

    Tag Teams
    #10 Tag champs New Day                    
    (Big E. & Kofi  & Xavier )
    #20 Enzo Amore & Big Cass                
    #31 Golden Truth (R-Truth & Goldust)

    Women
    #8 Sasha Banks
    #35 Paige                
    #54 Alicia Fox        
       
    Heel Side
    #1 Seth Rollins
    #8 Brock Lesnar
    #15 Chris Jericho
    #16 U.S. champion Rusev(w/Lana)
    #18 Kevin Owens
    #30 Sheamus
    #48 Braun Strowman
    #50 Bo Dallas
    #58 Curtis Axel

    Tag Teams
    #21 The Club (Anderson & Gallows)           
    #42 The Dudleys (Bubba Ray & Devon)
    #52 Shining Stars (Epico & Primo)

    Women
    #3 Women's champion Charlotte
    #25 Nia Jax
    #44 Summer Rae
    #56 Dana Brooke

    Broadcast Team - Michael Cole, Corey Graves, & Bryon Saxton

    Smackdown
    Face Side
    #2 WWE champion Dean Ambrose    
    #7  John Cena    
    #9  Randy Orton      
    #24 Dolph Ziggler    
    #37 Kalisto    
    #43 Zack Ryder    
    #45 Apollo Crews    
    #57 Mojo Rawley

    Tag Teams
    #22 American Alpha  (Jordan & Gable)    
    #32 The Usos  (Jimmy & Jey)                
                                           
    Women
    #14 Becky Lynch
    #59 Carmella        
     
    Heel Side
    #4 A.J. Styles
    #12 Bray Wyatt
    #17 IC champion The Miz (w/Maryse)
    #19 Baron Corbin
    #29 Alberto Del Rio
    #34 Kane
    #55 Erick Rowan

    Tag Teams
    #41 The Ascension (Konner & Viktor)
    #49 Tyler Breeze & Fandango
    #53 The Vaudevillians (English & Gotch)

    Women
    #27 Natalya                           
    #39 Naomi
    #47 Alexa Bliss
    #51 Eva Marie

    Broadcast Team - Mauro Ranallo, JBL, & David Otunga

    Undrafted
    Heath Slater
    Luke Harper (injured)
    Tyson Kidd (injured)
    Ryback (injured & waiting for contract to end)
    Nikki Bella (injured)
    Emma  (injured)
    Tamina (injured)

    Jerry Lawler & Booker T will be analysts for Pre-Shows on WWE Network
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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Swarles on Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:06 pm

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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by TeeBeeKay on Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:24 pm

    Typical WWE, they had a chance to retool things and try something different and they defaulted back to their old shit like always

    Anything new that came out of the draft Raw got, they got Balor, they got the crusierweight division(which is probably a bad idea anyway) and they got Graves

    SD got all the retreads and boring guys, SD has AJ, Dean, American Alpha and NOTHING else, it's a wasteland

    And Raw isn't even that much better
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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Joe5150 on Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:35 pm

    I think before we sour on SmackDown, we got to remember that WWE is bringing back a bunch of guys. Tajiri was first and I think Kendrick is also back.

    Wouldn't be surprised to see Carlito, Shelton (X) Benjamin, Chris Masters, etc. Also, Kota Ibushi and some others from the CWC have been signed.


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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Spudz on Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:24 pm

    I think they screwed the draft rounds up, Smackdown should have had 3 picks each round like Raw for the first 4 rounds not the last 4 rounds like they did. It really gave Raw a advantage when the brands are suppose to be equals.  They also should have made it clear that Regal had a certain number of people he could keep from being drafted from NXT.

    I am hoping we will see a trade or two announced in the next week that would fix things a little bit.
    I would like to see something like Zayn, Cesaro, Paige, Golden Truth,& Sin Cara to Smackdown while Orton, Kalisto, Crews, Vaudevillians and Carmella goes to Raw.

    I still think talent like Bayley, Joe, Revival and others I mentioned a page back will get called up before the end of year, and with Raw likely getting a number of cruiserweight classic talents, there a good chance a majority of the NXT talent will go to Smackdown.
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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by SBR on Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:58 pm

    Joe5150 wrote:I think before we sour on SmackDown, we got to remember that WWE is bringing back a bunch of guys. Tajiri was first and I think Kendrick is also back.

    Wouldn't be surprised to see Carlito, Shelton (X) Benjamin, Chris Masters, etc. Also, Kota Ibushi and some others from the CWC have been signed.

    Guys calm it down TAJIRI AND BRIAN KENRICK will fix Smackdown!!!

    Anwyay, I actually like getting JBL away from Cole. I think depending on how JBL plays it he could be great w Mauro. But maybe thats just wishful thinking. I don't think Graves can save Cole/Byron though. Never heard Otunga on commentary but I mean how bad could he be.

    Also really shows you how WWE, or specifically Vince, views people like Orton and Wyatt. They're "stars" but actually no one cares about them. Like why is Shane drafting Dolph Ziggler and Baron Corbin when Raw is drafting Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, The Club, Enzo and Cass, New Day...so on and so on.

    Ambrose, Styles & Cena is a good top three but the shit below them is just like....who are they gonna feud with? Who are they gonna put on these SD only PPVs?!


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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Slayer on Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:40 pm

    Orton is clearly getting a renewed focus as a top star on SD, given his SummerSlam match with Brock is still intact, and Cena is apparently winding down his schedule to work primarily TV and virtually no house shows.

    SD definitely got crushed in terms of not getting an overly deep roster, but they certainly have something they can work with. They did get the WWE Champion and Cena after all. Plus, when more NXT wrestlers get called up in the fall after Takeover: Brooklyn 2, perhaps some of them end up going to SmackDown.

    Raw got a lot of the smark favorites, but that was almost a necessity because they need to have a reason for that audience to keep interest in the show. Plus, with it being 3 hours, they need to have wrestlers with strong workrate to fill the time. I fear for how well the Cruiserweight division may fare by being on Raw rather than SD, but it's a wait and see approach for this, as well as the brand split as a whole.
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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by 2kNikk on Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:06 pm

    Honestly they should have had RAW take the cruisers and get first pick, then have it be an "even" draft. This overly convoluted mess is pretty much the issue with WWE writing. No real direction, overly complicated and trying to look "sportsy" without an understanding of the aspects of sports people enjoy.

    Short story: I hated it. All of it.


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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by TeeBeeKay on Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:37 am

    So my two favorite parts of SD were Heath's promo and Eva's voice over intro, not a strong start to say the least

    I'm only interested in Shelton if he brings the rest of Suzukigun with him
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    Re: SD to go live, Brand Split Returns

    Post by Slayer on Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:56 pm

    Inadvertently or not, Heath Slater really came up on something that could work very well for him. That's easily the best reaction he's received, probably ever, and Slater showed a ton of fire in the role. Hopefully he gets a legit opportunity to run with this new persona.

    The main event showed that SD is certainly lacking in legitimate top stars, but by featuring guys like Apollo Crews and Baron Corbin, it certainly shows that they are at least trying to feature new talent in top roles.

    Ziggler winning the 6-Pack Challenge is also evident of guys who got lost in the shuffle getting renewed focus and big opportunities in wake of the brand split. I just hope he makes tweaks to his persona and look to coincide with this chance in the spotlight, because he has been coasting as far as his character work goes for a long time now.

    Speaking of Suzuki Gun, I would love to see Killer Elite Squad on SD. Archer & Smith in their new personas would definitely be perfect for WWE TV, compared to their previous runs in the promotion.

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