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    Look don't judge me...

    Post by 2kNikk on Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:47 pm

    ...but would anyone be interested in rebooting the league? As stated last night I could run the shows in TEW to make it a little interesting.

    I find this idea super interesting so I figure I'd get feedback.
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    Re: Look don't judge me...

    Post by Xero on Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:18 pm

    I thought this thread was going to be about anime fan fiction.
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    Post by SBR on Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:04 pm

    I'm judging you.


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    Re: Look don't judge me...

    Post by Swarles on Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:22 pm

    Mannnn I don't know. Maybe if other people are really interested


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    Re: Look don't judge me...

    Post by Grant on Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:31 pm

    I'd have to see huge interest from at least 4 other people before I would even consider it.


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    Re: Look don't judge me...

    Post by TeeBeeKay on Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:58 pm

    Here's the deal, am I interested? Yes, very much so, I love the league, but it just takes so much time commitment

    I would certainly partake if we did it again but I do have my doubts that even if we get started it would last much longer than our last few attempts
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    Post by Stroke on Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:28 am

    Lol, awesome. My heart says "You should say you're interested" but my head says "nobody wants to see GO DRAGON~! anymore" and "It won't work". But I don't always listen to my head...


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    Re: Look don't judge me...

    Post by Vipes on Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:37 am

    Stroke wrote:Lol, awesome. My heart says "You should say you're interested" but my head says "nobody wants to see GO DRAGON~! anymore" and "It won't work". But I don't always listen to my head...

    Same. My head says this won't last just like the past few times, but my heart says "You know you want to book stupid comedy angles that involve Scott Steiner promos again.".
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    Post by TeeBeeKay on Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:42 am

    It looks like we have some interest in possibly giving this a shot

    Does anyone have ideas on how to improve things? Format, schedule etc?

    I know in the past during the two good incarnations of the league(one went about 60 weeks, the other went 80 or so) the key really was participation, we've tried all kinds of ideas on making the league less time intensive and whatnot that seemed to make sense on the surface but didn't help

    I think the fact that's it been a while since we've given it a real shot helps since maybe people will be less burned out

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    Post by Stroke on Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:46 am

    The biggest thing is finding a good balance of not having to write too much (easiest way to burn out) but still have enough detail that you get across what you're trying to do. Not sure what the best way to do that is, though.


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    Re: Look don't judge me...

    Post by 2kNikk on Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:53 pm

    I shall download a modern mod tonight and post the roster
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    Post by 2kNikk on Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:22 pm

    Mod downloaded. Getting stats now.



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    Post by 2kNikk on Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:50 pm

    Here are the 75-100 popularity guys (America only, by average, some adjustments made.)

    Name#RoleAKA
    Dwayne Johnson90Wrestler
    John Cena87Wrestler
    Jim Ross85Announcer
    Paul Levesque85Wrestler
    Shawn Michaels85Personality
    Steve Austin85Personality
    The Undertaker85Wrestler
    Stephanie McMahon-Levesque83Personality
    Brian Danielson82Wrestler
    Randy Orton82Wrestler
    Brock Lesnar81Wrestler
    Booker T80Color
    Chris Jericho80Wrestler
    CM Punk80Wrestler
    Hulk Hogan80Wrestler
    Vince McMahon80Personality
    Paul Wright76WrestlerBig Show
    Theodore Long76Personality
    Bill Goldberg75Wrestler
    Bret Hart75Personality
    Dave Bautistia75Wrestler
    Edge75Wrestler
    Eric Bishoff75Personality
    Jeff Hardy75Wrestler
    Kurt Angle75Wrestler
    Mark Henry75Wrestler
    Sting75Wrestler
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    Continuing on

    Name#RoleAKA
    Dos Caras Jr74WrestlerAlberto Del Rio
    Michael Cole74Announcer
    Kane73Wrestler
    Mick Foley72Personality
    Rey Mystereo72Wrestler
    Ric Flair72Manager
    Jeff Jarrett71Wrestler
    Nick Nemeth71WrestlerDolph Ziggler
    Bully Ray70Wrestler
    Christian70Wrestler
    Dusty Rhodes70Personality
    Kevin Nash70Wrestler
    Ricky Steamboat70Road Agent
    Sheamus70Wrestler
    Taz70Color
    John Layfield70ColorJBL
    Jon Moxley68WrestlerDean Ambrose
    Claudio Castagnoli68WrestlerCesaro
    Tyler Black68WrestlerSeth Rollins
    Fit Finlay67Road Agent
    Paul Heyman67Manager
    Rob Van Dam67Wrestler
    Ryback67
    Cody Rhodes66Wrestler
    Jerry Lawler66Color
    Scott Steiner66Wrestler
    Steven Regal66ColorWilliam Regal
    Aaron Stevens65WrestlerDamien Sandow
    AJ Styles65Wrestler
    Scott Hall65Color
    Sgt. Slaughter65Road Agent
    Stu Bennett65WrestlerWade Barrett
    Ted DiBiase Sr.65Manager
    Windham Rotunda65WrestlerBray Wyatt
    Joe Anoa'i63WrestlerRoman Reigns
    The Miz63Wrestler
    Abyss62Wrestler
    Arn Anderson60Road Agent
    Dustin Rhodes60WrestlerGoldust
    Joey Styles60Announcer
    Kofi Kingston60Wrestler
    M.V.P.60Wrestler
    Magnus60Wrestler
    Matt Stiker60Color
    Roddy Piper60Wrestler
    Ron Killings60Wrestler
    Vickie Guerrero60Manager
    Robert Roode59Wrestler
    Austin Aries58Wrestler
    Ettore Ewen57WrestlerBig E Langston
    Mr. Anderson57Wrestler
    Elijah Burke56Wrestler
    James Storm56Wrestler
    Samoa Joe56Wrestler
    Diamond Dallas Page55Road Agent
    John Cone55Referee
    Brother Devon53Wrestler
    Christopher Daniels52WrestlerCurry Man
    Ken Shamrock52Wrestler
    Mistico52WrestlerSin Cara
    BG James50Wrestler
    Billy Kidman50Road Agent
    Chavo Guerrero50Wrestler
    Dalip Singh50Wrestler
    George Murdoch50WrestlerBrodus Clay
    Giant Bernard50WrestlerAlbert, Tensai
    Jake Hager50WrestlerJack Swagger
    John Henngan50WrestlerJohn Morrison
    Konnan50Road Agent
    Lisa Marie Varon50WrestlerVictoria
    Mickie James50Wrestler
    Ron Simmons50Road Agent
    Satoshi Kojima50Wrestler
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    Post by 2kNikk on Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:39 pm

    40-49

    Name#RoleAKA
    Chris Sabin49Wrestler
    Bobby Lashleu48Wrestler
    Brodie Lee48Wrestler
    Fred Sampson48Wrestler
    Thoruf Marius48WrestlerErick Rowan
    Titus O'Neal48Wrestler
    El Hijo del Santo47Wrestler
    Taryn Terrell47Wrestler
    Paul Lloyd Jr46WrestlerJustin Gabriel
    Bob Backlund45Personality
    Charles Robinson45Referee
    Charlie Haas45Color
    Dean Malenko45Road Agent
    Dutch Mantel45ManagerZeb Colter
    Hiroshi Tanahashi45Wrestler
    Jim Cornett45Color
    Jonathan Fatu45WrestlerJimmy Uso
    Joshua Fatu45WrestlerJey Uso
    Kip James45WrestlerBilly Gunn
    Matt Hardy45Wrestler
    Matt Morgan45Wrestler
    Rampage Jackson45Wrestler
    Raven45Wrestler
    Sean Waltman45Wrestler
    Shane McMahon45Personality
    Ted Dibiase Jr.44Wrestler
    Tito Ortiz44Wrestler
    Eric Young42Wrestler
    Joe Hennig42WrestlerCurtis Axel
    Phill Shatter42WrestlerGunner
    Shelton Benjamin42Wrestler
    Alex Shelley41Wrestler
    Akebono40Wrestler
    April Jeanette40WrestlerAJ Lee
    Bob Holly40Wrestler
    Chad Patton40Referee
    D'Lo Brown40Road Agent
    Earl Hebner40Referee
    Frankie Kazarian40Wrestler
    James Gibson40Road AgentJamie Noble
    Johnny Curtis40WrestlerFandango
    Jushin Thunder Liger40Wrestler
    Kevin Steen40Wrestler
    Mike Rotunda40Road AgentIRS
    Mike Tenay40Announcer
    Nigel McGuinness40Color
    Sean Morley40Road AgentVal Venis
    Shawn Hernandez40WrestlerHernandez
    Steve Lombardi40Road Agent
    Talia Madison40WrestlerVelvet Skye
    TJ Wilson40WrestlerTyson Kidd
    Trish Stratus40Personality
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    Post by 2kNikk on Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:53 pm

    30-39

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    Ashley Lane39WrestlerMadison Rayne
    Eddie Colon38WrestlerPrimo, Diego
    Gail Kim38Wrestler
    Terry Funk38Wrestler
    Davey Richards37Wrestler
    Orlando Colon37WrestlerEpico, Fernando
    Rycklon Stephans37WrestlerEzekiel Jackson
    Steve Corino37Color
    Adam Cole36Wrestler
    Anthony Carelli36Wrestler
    Brook Hogan36Personality
    Colt Cabana36Wrestler
    Eddie Edwards36Wrestler
    Jay Lethal36Wrestler
    Rene Dupree36Wrestler
    Rhino36Wrestler
    Blue Demon Jr35Wrestler
    Brie Bella35Wrestler
    Carly Colon35Wrestler
    Christy Hemme35Personality
    El Generico35WrestlerSami Zayn
    Homicide35Wrestler
    Jay Briscoe35Wrestler
    Jim Neidhart35Personality
    Kaitlyn35Wrestler
    Keiji Mutoh35Wrestler
    Mark Briscoe35Wrestler
    Matthew Cardona35WrestlerZack Ryder
    Michael Hayes35Road Agent
    Nattie Neidhart35WrestlerNatalya
    Nikki Bella35Wrestler
    PAC35WrestlerAdrian Neville
    Rikishi35Wrestler
    Roderick Strong35Wrestler
    Terry Taylor35Road Agent
    Josh Matthews34Wrestler
    Brian Kendrick33Wrestler
    Matt Sydal32WrestlerEvan Bourne
    Matt Taven32Wrestler
    Taylor Rotunda32WrestlerBo Dallas
    Al Snow30Road Agent
    Amy Dumas30ManagerLita
    Barri Griffiths30WrestlerMason Ryan
    Doug Williams30Wrestler
    Harry Smith30Wrestler
    Heath Miller30WrestlerHeath Miller
    Hiroyoshi Tenzan30Wrestler
    Incognito30Wrestler
    Jimmy Yang30Wrestler
    KAZMA30Wrestler
    Lance Storm30Road Agent
    Layla El30Wrestler
    Michael Elgin30Wrestler
    Psicosis30Wrestler
    Rick Steiner30Wrestler
    Rob Terry30Wrestler
    Sara Del Ray30Road Agent
    Shiima Xion30Wrestler
    Steven Richards30Wrestler
    Takao Omori30Wrestler
    Teddy Hart30Wrestler
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    Post by 2kNikk on Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:58 pm

    20-29

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    Akira Taue29Road Agent
    Arkangel de la Muerte29Wrestler
    Atlantis29Wrestler
    Averno29Wrestler
    Black Warrior29Wrestler
    Blue Panther29Wrestler
    Cibernertico29Wrestler
    CIMA29Wrestler
    El Zorro29Wrestler
    Joe Doering29Wrestler
    Juventude Guerrera29Wrestler
    Kaz Hayashi29Wrestler
    Kazuchika Okada29Wrestler
    Kensuke Sasaki29Road Agent
    KENTA29Wrestler
    Kenta Kobashi29Road Agent
    Koji Kanemoto29Wrestler
    L.A. Park29Wrestler
    Marco Corleone29Wrestler
    Masaaki Mochizuki29Wrestler
    Mashiro Chono29Road Agent
    Masato Tanaka29Wrestler
    Masato Yoshino29Wrestler
    Minoru Suzuki29Wrestler
    Mohammed Yone29Wrestler
    Naomichi Marufuji29Wrestler
    Nick Dinsmore29Road Agent
    Osamu Nishimura29Wrestler
    Rey Bucanero29Wrestler
    Ricky Banderas29Wrestler
    Shingo Takagi29Wrestler
    Shinsuke Nakamura29Wrestler
    Shocker29Wrestler
    Silver King29Wrestler
    Takeshi Morishima29Wrestler
    Tetsuya Naito29Wrestler
    The Great Sasuke29Road Agent
    Tiger Mask IV29Wrestler
    Ultimo Dragon29Wrestler
    Vampiro29Wrestler
    Volador Jr.29Wrestler
    YAMATO29Wrestler
    Yoshinari Ogawa29Wrestler
    Alexander Rusev28Wrestler
    Johnny Gargano28Wrestler
    Paul London28Wrestler
    Kenny King27Wrestler
    Masada27Wrestler
    Michael Hutter27WrestlerEC 3
    Mike Bennett27Wrestler
    Road Warrior Animal27Personality
    Matt Jackson26Wrestler
    Nick Jackson26Wrestler
    Rhett Titus26Wrestler
    Allison Danger25Color
    Amazing Kong25Wrestler
    Buff Bagwell25Wrestler
    Chris Hero25Wrestler
    David Otunga25Wrestler
    Delerious25Wrestler
    Drew Galloway25Wrestler
    Drew Hankinson25WrestlerDOC, Luke Gallows
    Gedo25Wrestler
    Gregory Helms25Wrestler
    Honky Tonk Man25Wrestler
    Jeremy Borash25Wrestler
    Jessie Godderz25WrestlerJessie
    Jimmy Jacobs25Wrestler
    Joey Ryan25Wrestler
    Lance Hoyt25Wrestler
    Mike Knox25Wrestler
    Norman Smiley25Road Agent
    ODB25Wrestler
    Rob Conway25Wrestler
    Rob Eckos25Wrestler
    Sabu25Wrestler
    Sam Shaw25Wrestler
    Sami Callihan25Wrestler
    Sarona Snuka25WrestlerTamina
    Sonjay Dutt25Wrestler
    Steve Keirn25Road Agent
    Super Crazy25Wrestler
    Tiger Raj Singh25WrestlerJinder Mahal
    Tommy Dreamer25Wrestler
    Trinity McCray25WrestlerNaoimi
    Christian York24Wrestler
    Jim Duggan24Personality
    Mike Mondo24Wrestler
    Shannon Moore24Wrestler
    Beth Pheonix23Wrestler
    Cheerleader Melissa23Wrestler
    Leo Kruger23WrestlerAdam Rose
    Sim Snuka23Wrestler
    Bobby Fish22Wrestler
    Chris Mordetzky22WrestlerChris Masters
    DJ Hyde22Wrestler
    Joey Matthews22Wrestler
    John Walters22Wrestler
    Kid Kash22Wrestler
    Kyle O'Reilly22Wrestler
    Trevor Murdock22Wrestler
    Ayako Hamada21Wrestler
    Matt Anoa'i21WrestlerRosey
    Silas Young21Wrestler
    The Godfather21Personality
    Yoshihiro Tajiri21Wrestler
    Afa Anoa'I Jr20WrestlerManu
    Amazing Red20Wrestler
    Ariane Andrew20WrestlerCameron
    BJ Whitmer20Wrestler
    Brian Myers20Wrestler
    Brooke Adams20WrestlerBrooke Tessmacher
    Brother Runt20Wrestler
    Bryan Kelly20ColorByron Saxton
    Car Silkin20Personality
    Chris Storm20Wrestler
    Cliff Compton20Wrestler
    Dave Prazak20Announcer
    Dory Funk Jr20Road Agent
    Drake Younger20Wrestler
    Eddie Kingston20Wrestler
    Gabe Sapolsky20Road Agent
    Hector Guerrero20Color
    Jack Evans20Wrestler
    Jake Roberts20Personality
    Jayson Paul20WrestlerJTG
    Jimmy Rave20Wrestler
    Kana20Wrestler
    Madison Eagles20Wrestler
    Maria Kanellis20Manager
    Melina Perez20Wrestler
    Mercedes Martinez20Wrestler
    Mike Bucci20WrestlerNova
    Naofumi Yamamoto20Wrestler
    Necro Butcher20Wrestler
    Perry Saturn20Personality
    Petey Williams20Wrestler
    Prince Nana20Manager
    Ryan O'Reilly20WrestlerConor O'Brien
    Savio Vega20Wrestler
    Scott Armstrong20Referee
    Serena Deeb20Wrestler
    Shad Gaspard20Wrestler
    Shane Douglas20Wrestler
    So Cal Val20Personality
    Sterling James Keenan20Wrestler
    Tatanka20Wrestler
    The Sandman20Wrestler
    TJ Perkins20Wrestler
    Tom Prichard20Road Agent
    Vladimir Kozlov20Wrestler
    Yujiro Takahashi20Wrestler
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    Re: Look don't judge me...

    Post by 2kNikk on Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:00 pm

    That's it for tonight, but there are about a hundred or so more just in the active in America section. Total the mod tops out at apx 1200 workers. More than enough for (a max of) 8 companies, no?

    Edit 1: I'll be making a Google doc with this list as well

    Edit 2: More details tomorrow.
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    Post by Swarles on Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:56 pm

    so when you run the shows, is it just highest rated TEW show wins? Because that doesn't really sound fun since a lot of the people i would want to book aren't ranked high.

    Also, Japan?


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    Post by 2kNikk on Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:04 pm

    I'm going to have mitigators that help those who run shows that are poor by TEW standards but fun to read.

    You are really going to make me go through and list Japan. All of NJPW, AJPW and w-1 are there plus more, I have the laptop closed for the night.

    If there is any people in particular you are interested give me a list.

    If you are asking if you can run a company out of Japan, hell yeah why not?


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    Post by TeeBeeKay on Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:04 am

    I guess I don't understand the TEW aspect of this, are we going to write out our shows like normal, and then you're going to run them through TEW?

    As far as popularity goes for purposes of this league wouldn't it make sense to set the popularity based on a scale of where they're drafted? Like for instance 1st rounders are 85, 2nd rounders 80, and so on and so on

    I don't know, just throwing something out there
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    Re: Look don't judge me...

    Post by Stroke on Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:22 am

    It seems like just running it without a game might be easier. Allow for more freedom to do stuff as well. Just a thought.
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    Post by TeeBeeKay on Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:43 am

    I tend to agree with stroke, but I want to hear the idea flushed out a little more to see if it would work or not
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    Re: Look don't judge me...

    Post by 2kNikk on Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:47 am

    Allow me to weigh out the pros and cons as I see them and then later today I'll throw some more mechanical stuff out there.

    Pros
    1) More of a challange and thus less likely to get bored. You *can* get anybody over in TEW terms, but it would be more of a challange.

    2) Easier to take a week off. Heck you could choose to only write one event a month if that is all you can handle.

    3) Unexpected things happen. Some people sky rocket in pop. Some don't.

    4) The three above prevent against the dreaded burnout.  You want to make Gargano the most over man in wrestling? The challange is there! You have to take two weeks off for a road trip? Go for it! Or maybe you'll keep going because something crazy is happening. Bang, less burnout.

    5) The game is easy to show results if you cannot write.

    Cons

    1) Some things that rate bad on TEW rate good here. Aero dick kicking would mostly rate bad in TEW, but is beloved here.

    2) People may not want injuries or unexpected turns to ruin there plans. Just because it's fun trying to see WWE scramble after Punk left does not mean YOU want to do it.

    3) Less freedom is one I see on the board here. People want to main event who they want. They want to put Soldier Ant over JBL, Jericho and HBK with no mind to the fact that the vets are not going to be okay with that. Which is less likely in TEW admittedly.
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    Post by Stroke on Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:28 pm

    I actually look at some of those Cons as Pros. Random stuff like that comes up and if one of my top stars gets hurt and I have to adjust on the fly, I don't think that's a bad thing. But that might be just me.


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