WHITE HOUSE QUIETLY OKS ANOTHER – YES, ANOTHER – OBAMACARE DELAY

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    WHITE HOUSE QUIETLY OKS ANOTHER – YES, ANOTHER – OBAMACARE DELAY

    Post by BrianRFSU on Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:21 pm

    The White House announced Tuesday that it would again extend the Obamacare enrollment deadline for persons with pre-existing conditions.

    The deadline for the Pre-Existing Conditions Insurance Plan (PCIP) will be moved to March 15, up from its previous deadline of Jan. 31.

    “As part of our continuing effort to help smooth consumers’ transition into Marketplace coverage, we are allowing those covered by PCIP additional time to shop for new coverage while they receive the ongoing care and treatment they need,” Health and Human Services spokeswoman Joanne Peters said in a statement.

    The Tuesday announcement is the second time that the Obama administration — without the approval or consent of Congress — has decided to move up the PCIP enrollment deadline. The original deadline was scheduled for the end of December. Of course, the White House decided in December to extend its original deadline because of failure of the online federal health care exchanges.

    But keep in mind: The White House has tweaked a lot more than just the PCIP enrollment deadline.

    “The new extension is just the latest in a string of unilateral delays the administration has implemented to buy time after the disastrous rollout of HealthCare.gov,” The Hill reported.

    “The Obama administration has so far delayed the premium payments deadline, delayed by one week the sign-up date for coverage beginning Jan. 1, pushed back by six weeks the sign-up date for those seeking coverage by April 1, and delayed the second-year enrollment period until after the 2014 elections,” the report adds.

    Again, the White House never consulted or sought the approval of Congress for these changes, which is odd considering that the Supreme Court ruled in 2012 that Obamacare is constitutional so long as it’s considered a tax.


    The Hill report continues: “The $5 billion PCIP program was intended as bridge health coverage to sick patients waiting for the full implementation of ObamaCare. The administration says that 135,000 have used the program at some point, but did not say how many were currently in PCIP.”

    Fewer than 30,000 people are still enrolled, an HHS spokesperson told The Hill.

    “HHS stopped accepting new applicants early last year over fears the program didn’t have enough money to cover those that had signed up,” the report adds.

    For its part, the American Cancer Society is pleased with the Obama administration’s decision to extend the PCIP enrollment deadline for a second time.

    “Today’s announcement ensures that people with pre-existing conditions such as a history of cancer have lifesaving coverage under the Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan through the end of open enrollment,” a spokesman said in a statement. “The extension gives cancer patients and others who had no health insurance options before enrolling in PCIP extra time to choose a marketplace plan that works best for them and their families.”

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    Why are we even thinking this is/was a good idea ?
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    Post by WhoBetta on Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:21 pm

    You again?  Smile

    Why isnt it a good idea?  I just dont see how making insurance more affordable for everyone and making it easier for those who would normally not be able to afford insurance to get coverage.

    Yeah, the website thing... That's f'n ridiculous and how that can happen in this day and age is unbelievable to me.  But that aside, the ACA is a positive any way you look at it.  If you, a capable and smart human being, don't have any coverage at this point, its your own damned fault.


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    Post by Xero on Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:29 pm

    If my company drops my healthcare coverage to pay for this crap, I'm going to flip.
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    Post by WhoBetta on Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:43 pm

    Xero wrote:If my company drops my healthcare coverage to pay for this crap, I'm going to flip.

    If they were going to, they'd of done it already.

    When the ACA was announced, my CEO yanked all benefits for Part time associates effective end of year. We had 5 months to prepare. So I went full time. Out of curiosity I checked what my rate would be under the ACA, and its the same (well, 59 cents a month difference).

    I have many friends who have greatly benefited from Obamacare personally, and for their families. There are only positives here. If you cant get coverage at this point, I reiterate, its your own damned fault. Quit being lazy.


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    Post by Indy on Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:19 am

    ACA is actually my job. It's definitely sour taste for a lot of people who don't understand it or don't like change.

    But it truly is making cheaper insurance available.
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    Post by SBR on Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:07 pm

    I'm covered on my parents until 27, but maybe I should learn more about this stuff lol.


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    Post by BrianRFSU on Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:32 pm

    WhoBetta wrote:
    Xero wrote:If my company drops my healthcare coverage to pay for this crap, I'm going to flip.

    If they were going to, they'd of done it already.


    Actually, since the employer mandate doesn't take effect until 2015, they may do it next year.
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    Post by Xero on Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:14 pm

    They're re-evaluating in June. All I know is that I pay like 60 dollars a month and that's mostly attributed to optional dental. For me, Obamacare is at least 200 a month and is in no way superior to what I have.
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    Post by WhoBetta on Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:02 pm

    I have never seen a benefit plan where dental is more than medical. They may exist, in fact Im sure they do somewhere (per your post), Ive just never seen or ever heard of that till today.

    Your boss needs to find a new provider stat! That is fucked up.


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    Post by Xero on Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:27 pm

    WhoBetta wrote:I have never seen a benefit plan where dental is more than medical. They may exist, in fact Im sure they do somewhere (per your post), Ive just never seen or ever heard of that till today.

    Your boss needs to find a new provider stat!  That is fucked up.

    I'm not sure that's how it works, but I'm not sure I'd be paying anything if I didn't opt in for the plan that included dental.

    Bottom line is, I'm paying 60 dollars a month for a 1,000 dollar deductible, $15 dollar primary care, $25 dollar specialist care.  

    Just seems better from my understanding of the plans available to me under Obamacare.

    If Obamacare is beneficial to you, I think that's great.  I think the idea is great, but I'm not entirely sold on the execution.
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    Post by WhoBetta on Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:40 pm

    Xero wrote:but I'm not entirely sold on the execution.

    Neither am I.

    Ohio executes death row inmates better than the US Government rolled out the ACA. [/rimshot]

    For frame of reference so my post is funny and makes sense: http://news.cincinnati.com/viewart/20140117/NEWS0107/301170083/Daughter-Ohio-execution-most-awful-moment-life


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